Jay Family History

Thursday, March 09, 2006

ruth hall

Worcester County, Massachusetts, Probate Index, Vol. 1 & 2 A - Z, July 1731-1881 Record
about Ruth Hall
Given Name: Ruth
Surname: Hall
Record Date: 1801
Residence: Brookfield
Record Type: Guardianship

Jay's in new york i 1790

Frederick Jay New York City East Ward, New York, NY 1790
View Record John Jay New York City North Ward, New York, NY 1790
View Record John Jay New York City West Ward, New York, NY 1790
View Record Joshua Jay New Cornwall, Orange, NY 1790
View Record John Jay Warwick, Orange, NY 1790
View Record David Jay New Paltz, Ulster, NY 1790
View Record Peter Jay Rye, Westchester, NY 1790

Gees in and around New York in 1790

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Calvin Gay Woodstock, Windham, CT 1790

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Ephraim Gay Camden, Hancock, ME 1790

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David Gay Ducktrap, Hancock, ME 1790

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Moses Gay Penofscot, Hancock, ME 1790

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Elezer Gay Cushing, Lincoln, ME 1790

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Jonah Gay Meduncook, Lincoln, ME 1790

Wellington Gay Meduncook, Lincoln, ME 1790

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Seth Gay Pittston, Lincoln, ME 1790
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Peter Gay Sandy River, First Twp, Lincoln, ME 1790
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Moses Gay Winthrop, Lincoln, ME 1790
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Jacob Gooe Township East of Machias, Washington, ME 1790
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John Goue Waterboro, York, ME 1790
Peter Goo West Stockbridge, Berkshire, MA 1790

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Jabez Gay Attleborough, Bristol, MA 1790
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Abigal Gay Gloucester, Essex, MA 1790
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William Gea Gloucester, Essex, MA 1790
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James Gay Haverhill, Essex, MA 1790
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Susana Guy Newburyport, Essex, MA 1790
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John Gay Ashfield, Hampshire, MA 1790
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Olivr Gay Greenwich, Hampshire, MA 1790
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Ebenr Gay New Salem, Hampshire, MA 1790
Joseph Gay Natick, Middlesex, MA 1790

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Mrs Gee Boston, Suffolk, MA 1790
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Henry T Gay Braintree, Suffolk, MA 1790
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Danl Gay Dedham, Suffolk, MA 1790
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Danl, Jun Gay Dedham, Suffolk, MA 1790
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David Gay Dedham, Suffolk, MA 1790
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Eben Gay Dedham, Suffolk, MA 1790
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Ich Gay Dedham, Suffolk, MA 1790
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Ich Gay Dedham, Suffolk, MA 1790
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Ich Gay Dedham, Suffolk, MA 1790
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Jese Gay Dedham, Suffolk, MA 1790
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John Gay Dedham, Suffolk, MA 1790
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Joseph Gay Dedham, Suffolk, MA 1790
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Josiah Gay Dedham, Suffolk, MA 1790
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Natl Gay Dedham, Suffolk, MA 1790
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Saml Gay Dedham, Suffolk, MA 1790
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Seth Gay Dedham, Suffolk, MA 1790
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Thadeus Gay Dedham, Suffolk, MA 1790
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Theo Gay Dedham, Suffolk, MA 1790
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Timo Gay Dedham, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Willard Gay Dedham, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Willi Gay Dedham, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Stephen Gay Dover, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Benj Guy Dover, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Thos Gay Franklin, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Timo Gay Franklin, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Joshua Gay Hingham, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Nathaniel Gay Milton, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Asa Gay Needham, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Jono Gay Needham, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Samuel Gay Roxbury, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Wm Gay Roxbury, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Soloman Gay Sharon, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Soloman, Jun Gay Sharon, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Aaron Gay Stoughton, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Hez Gay Stoughton, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Leml Gay Stoughton, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Timo Gay Stoughton, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Calvan Gay Walpole, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Ebe Gay Walpole, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Jacob Gay Walpole, Suffolk, MA 1790

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Joseph Gay Walpole, Suffolk, MA 1790

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John Gay Holden, Worcester, MA 1790

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Ebenezer Gay Westborough, Worcester, MA 1790

Garret Gowey Albany Ward 1, Albany, NY 1790

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John Gay Coxsackie, Albany, NY 1790

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Thomas Gay Coxsackie, Albany, NY 1790

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Edward Gay Rensselaerwick, Albany, NY 1790

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Stephen Gee Watervliet, Albany, NY 1790

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Benjamin Gouwey Watervliet, Albany, NY 1790

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Solomon Gouwey Watervliet, Albany, NY 1790

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John Gowey Watervliet, Albany, NY 1790

Barnet Gay Clinton, Dutchess, NY 1790

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Eleanor Gay Clinton, Dutchess, NY 1790

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John Gay Clinton, Dutchess, NY 1790

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David Gee Clinton, Dutchess, NY 1790

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John Gee Fishkill, Dutchess, NY 1790

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Daniel Gay Fredericksontown, Dutchess, NY 1790

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Ezekiel Gee Phillipstown, Dutchess, NY 1790

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Francis Gee Phillipstown, Dutchess, NY 1790

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John Gee Phillipstown, Dutchess, NY 1790

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Jason Gay Southeast, Dutchess, NY 1790

Caeser Guy Haverstraw, Orange, NY 1790

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Phillip Guy Haverstraw, Orange, NY 1790

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Cornelius Gee New Cornwall, Orange, NY 1790

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Roswell Gee New Cornwall, Orange, NY 1790

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Charity Gay Flushing, Queens, NY 1790

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Joseph Gee Brook Haven, Suffolk, NY 1790

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Mary Gee Brook Haven, Suffolk, NY 1790

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Shadrick Gee Brook Haven, Suffolk, NY 1790

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Joseph Gee Middletown, Ulster, NY 1790

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Moses Gee Middletown, Ulster, NY 1790

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Thomas Gee Montgomery, Ulster, NY 1790

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Andrew Gee New Marlborough, Ulster, NY 1790

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John Gee New Marlborough, Ulster, NY 1790

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William, Senr Gee New Marlborough, Ulster, NY 1790

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Nathaniel Gee New Paltz, Ulster, NY 1790

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David Gew New Paltz, Ulster, NY 1790

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William, Junr Gee Shawangunk, Ulster, NY 1790

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Jeremiah Gee Wallkill, Ulster, NY 1790

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Esqr Jonathan G. Scarsdale, Westchester, NY 1790

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Muntford Ghee Not Stated, Caswell, NC 1790 N/A
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Jos Goe Portion Taken From Washington, Allegheny, PA 1790

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Samuel Goe Portion Taken From Washington, Allegheny, PA 1790

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James Guy Portion Taken From Washington, Allegheny, PA 1790

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William Guy Portion Taken From Washington, Allegheny, PA 1790

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Wm Guy Portion Taken From Washington, Allegheny, PA 1790

Samuel Guy Not Stated, Bucks, PA 1790

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Thomas Guy Not Stated, Bucks, PA 1790

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Hugh Guy East Nottingham, Chester, PA 1790

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John Gaw Hopewell, Newton, Tyborn, And Westpensboro, Cumberland, PA 1790

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Thomas Gay Hopewell, Newton, Tyborn, And Westpensboro, Cumberland, PA 1790

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William Goe Washington, Fayette, PA 1790

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John Gay Not Stated, Franklin, PA 1790

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Saml Guay Sadsbury, Lancaster, PA 1790

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William Guay Sadsbury, Lancaster, PA 1790

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Hugh Gee Not Stated, Montgomery, PA 1790

Jonathan Goay Not Stated, Montgomery, PA 1790

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Thomas Gay Upper Mount Bethel, Northampton, PA 1790

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Robert Guy Not Stated, Northumberland, PA 1790

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Rachel (Nurse) Guiy Southwark, Philadelphia, PA 1790

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Ralph (Milnor) Gee Water Street East Side, Philadelphia, PA 1790

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John (Carter) Guy Water Street East Side, Philadelphia, PA 1790

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Henry Guy Not Stated, Washington, PA 1790

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Henry Guy Not Stated, Washington, PA 1790

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Chambers Gaw York Borough, York, PA 1790

Monday, March 06, 2006

Peter Jay's dad Joseph

Hi Rodney,
You've been working to expand the Jay family on one side. Well I have been busy expanding the Jay family on the other side. I went to Salt Lake last night for a sleep test, and decided after to go to the family history center. I pulled up the Jay family history blog and started looking up a bunch of films for Ulster county. After spending about 4 hours staring at microfilm, I was burned out and decided to call it a day and go home. I just wanted to take a couple of minutes and find some better films to look at finding some microfilms that were more profitable to look at for the next time I come down. After not finding anything I thought I would look at ancestry.com. I thought I would just try a little fishing with different lures, and suddenly there was Peter Jay in 1800. I thought he didn't marry until 1806, thinking that he probably married about two years before Hiram was born in 1808, but here he was in 1800 already married. He must have been a newly wed. He was about 19, and she must have been about 16. He wasn't living in Ulster County, he was living in the city of Colchester in the county of Delaware. He is living in the same city as his uncle Moses, and his (Peter's oldest brother) Edmund. He, Peter, was living right next door to his older brother Joshua, and on the other side he was living right next door to his father, Joseph Gee. I'm not sure how Joseph fits in with the other Gees, but Moses has to be Joseph's brother. They were living next to each other in Middletown in 1790, and then they both moved to Colchester by 1800. J. Hiram's first name is probably Joshua, after his uncle.
Anyway, that is my latest theory, and your job is to prove me wrong, or point out the fallacies in my deductions. Let me present the evidence. Peter was born in about 1781. He married Ruth Hall who was born in about 1784. So Peter would be about 19 in 1800 and Ruth would be about 16 or maybe 17. The 1800 census for Colchester shows a Peter Gee, who's age is between 16 and 25. He is the head of the house, and he is sharing his house with a free white female who is also between the ages of 16 to 25. They have no children at this time. So the ages are a close match.
In the 1800 census, Joseph, Peter, and Joshua are all in a row, next to each other. As the census taker took the census he would probable go down the block from house to house. So these three probably lived in a row. This could indicate a close familial relationship. Perhaps, it was the dad's property and he subdivided it for his boys. Edmund and Moses are a little further up the list, but the census taker would probably go up one street and then down the other, so they might just live across the street. (Just wait, I'm only getting started.)
In 1790, on the census list, Moses and Joseph had two names between them, indicating that the lived close to each other even then. In 1790 Moses had not males children under the age of 16, but he did have 2 daughters. so he probably wouldn't be the father of Edmund, Peter, and Joshua.
In the 1790 census, Joseph had two sons over the age of 16, and 5 sons under the age of sixteen. That is seven sons and 3 daughters. In the 1880 census Edmund has one son between 10 and 15, and another under 10. If Edmund were one of the sons in the 1790 census who was over 16, he would now fall into the category of over 26, but under 45, which he is. Joshua is also over the age of 26 but less that 45. He would have been older that 16 in the 1790 census. Edmund and Joshua both meet the criteria to be Peter's older brothers and Joseph's oldest two sons.
In the 1800 census, Joseph is now over 45, and Moses is under 44 and has a son and daughter older that ten but younger that 16. If they were 10 and 11 then Moses could be as young as 32, so maybe Moses is really Joseph's oldest son instead of his brother. that might explain better why Moses goes with Joseph and the other brothers to Colchester.
In other words It really looks like Joseph is the dad, Moses is either his brother or oldest son, and Edmund Peter, and Joshua are Joseph's sons. Now, I have to find out how Joseph fits in with the rest of the Gee family. I'll still look for further evidence to prove my conjecture.

Love, Dad