Peter Jay
25 October 2005
Hi Everyone, Peter and I went up to the Family History Library today to do some reasearch. Most things didn't pan out. I came up with a few things of interest that I will include in this blog. First of all let me tell you where things begin to fall apart. Our ancestor Henry Andrew Jay was born on the 18th of May 1831 in Broome County New York. His dad is J. Hiram Jay who lived in Broome County New York and was born about 1807. His Father is Peter Jay who was born about 1781 and is Of, Chenango, Broome, New York. I have no idea where Peter came from, before ending un in Broome County, or who his parents are. But here are a few things I found out today.
Montgomery County in New York was created in 1772. It was originally named Tryon, but was renamed in 1774 to Montgomery.
Tioga county was created in 1791 and was created out of Montgomery County.
Broome County was created in 1806 out of Tioga County.
Chenango, another County in New York was created in 1798 from Herkimer and Tioga Counties.
So it is possible to have lived in Tryon County, Montgomery County, Tioga County and Broome or Chenango County without ever having moved.
So it makes it hard to research Broome County when it was once Tioga, Montgomery and Tryon.
One person of interest I found today is Sarah Jay in the 1800 Census living in Tioga County. Six years before Broome County was created. It may be in the part of Tioga that became Broome. Sarah is between the ages of 26 and 46. She is listed as the head of the house, and has a male child between the ages of 10 and 16 living with her. She also has a female child under the age of 10 living with her. In 1800 Peter Jay would be about 18 or 19. Could this be his mom? Is she a widow? Where did she come from? For her to be here at this time I would think she must be related to Peter. With a child under the age of ten her husband was probably alive in the 1790 census. I'll have to look at that closer.
Also I found a Bartholomeus Jay who is married to Jannetien Post who had a child Maria baptized on 19 April 1768 in the Katbaan Church, in New York. Where did he come from? I never heard of a Bartholomeus Jay before, and did he have any sons?
There is no record of Frederick Jay (brother of Justice John Jay) having any children, but the 1790 census shows him having a male child under the age of sixteen living with him, and two white females no age listed. Does he really have children?
According to the newpaper "Republican Herald" Peter Jay had a letter at the Chenango Point Post Office on 18 Dec. 1821. Getting a letter was big news back in those days.
Some Jays changed the spelling of their names to Joy, and some Gees living in New York at this time changed the spelling of their name to Jay or Gay. Gee, it would be gay and no joy, if we were anything but Jays.
The books "The Jay -- Joy family of Norfolk" and "The history of the Gee, Jay Family : New York to Kansas, weren't any help. Our missing Jay anscestors just didn't make it into the books.
So my trip to get some answers left me with a lot more questions and one enticing lead with Sarah Jay. But who is Sarah's husband and where did he come from! And is she Peter's Mom?
Love, Rod
Hi Everyone, Peter and I went up to the Family History Library today to do some reasearch. Most things didn't pan out. I came up with a few things of interest that I will include in this blog. First of all let me tell you where things begin to fall apart. Our ancestor Henry Andrew Jay was born on the 18th of May 1831 in Broome County New York. His dad is J. Hiram Jay who lived in Broome County New York and was born about 1807. His Father is Peter Jay who was born about 1781 and is Of, Chenango, Broome, New York. I have no idea where Peter came from, before ending un in Broome County, or who his parents are. But here are a few things I found out today.
Montgomery County in New York was created in 1772. It was originally named Tryon, but was renamed in 1774 to Montgomery.
Tioga county was created in 1791 and was created out of Montgomery County.
Broome County was created in 1806 out of Tioga County.
Chenango, another County in New York was created in 1798 from Herkimer and Tioga Counties.
So it is possible to have lived in Tryon County, Montgomery County, Tioga County and Broome or Chenango County without ever having moved.
So it makes it hard to research Broome County when it was once Tioga, Montgomery and Tryon.
One person of interest I found today is Sarah Jay in the 1800 Census living in Tioga County. Six years before Broome County was created. It may be in the part of Tioga that became Broome. Sarah is between the ages of 26 and 46. She is listed as the head of the house, and has a male child between the ages of 10 and 16 living with her. She also has a female child under the age of 10 living with her. In 1800 Peter Jay would be about 18 or 19. Could this be his mom? Is she a widow? Where did she come from? For her to be here at this time I would think she must be related to Peter. With a child under the age of ten her husband was probably alive in the 1790 census. I'll have to look at that closer.
Also I found a Bartholomeus Jay who is married to Jannetien Post who had a child Maria baptized on 19 April 1768 in the Katbaan Church, in New York. Where did he come from? I never heard of a Bartholomeus Jay before, and did he have any sons?
There is no record of Frederick Jay (brother of Justice John Jay) having any children, but the 1790 census shows him having a male child under the age of sixteen living with him, and two white females no age listed. Does he really have children?
According to the newpaper "Republican Herald" Peter Jay had a letter at the Chenango Point Post Office on 18 Dec. 1821. Getting a letter was big news back in those days.
Some Jays changed the spelling of their names to Joy, and some Gees living in New York at this time changed the spelling of their name to Jay or Gay. Gee, it would be gay and no joy, if we were anything but Jays.
The books "The Jay -- Joy family of Norfolk" and "The history of the Gee, Jay Family : New York to Kansas, weren't any help. Our missing Jay anscestors just didn't make it into the books.
So my trip to get some answers left me with a lot more questions and one enticing lead with Sarah Jay. But who is Sarah's husband and where did he come from! And is she Peter's Mom?
Love, Rod
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